McLaren hold talks with Renault but make no decision on Honda split

  • Published on 01 Sep 2017 18:54
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  • By: Chris Soulsby

It appears that McLaren is getting closer to signing an engine deal with Renault, although the team has denied that a decision regarding its power unit supplier for 2018 has not yet been made. McLaren look set to go ahead with divorce proceedings with Honda, although the divorce could depend on Toro Rosso agreeing a deal with the Japanese manufacturer which would allow it to remain in Formula 1.

On Friday after FP2, Jerome Stoll, Cyril Abiteboul, Alain Prost and Ross Brawn were spotted in talks inside McLaren's motorhome. Speaking to Sky Sports, Zak Brown admitted that the situation McLaren faces is complex: "It is very complicated," he said. "There are a variety of pieces to the puzzle - some in our control, some not. It can still go either way. It's probably one of the biggest decisions McLaren have ever had to make," he added.

Although Toro Rosso recently set a deadline to decide its 2018 engine supplier this weekend, Brown has said that McLaren has until mid-September to make a decision but refused to share any information regarding ongoing discussions with Honda: "I am not going to comment on any meetings with Honda," he said.

Honda apparently provide McLaren with £50m a year, but after an unfruitful three year relationship which has seen McLaren fail to finish any higher than fifth in a race, Brown has said competitiveness is the team's only target for 2018.

"The best thing for McLaren is to make the best sporting decision possible," he said. "We are here to win so we are going to make a sporting decision. We can't afford not to be on the podium. It's a big decision that has lots of elements to it and economics are one. But fortunately we have extremely committed shareholders which means we can make a sporting decision and deal with the economics."

Providing that McLaren did divorce Honda, it is believed that Fernando Alonso would re-sign with the team for 2018 after supposedly issuing an ultimatum earlier in the week which said that he would only stay if the team did part ways with its current engine supplier. 

"Fernando has not given us any ultimatum, that it's 'them or us', at all. His decision will be based on whether he thinks we will be competitive or not. He's not been engine-specific in his desires," said Brown, dismissing the rumours of Alonso's ultimatum. "Negotiations are ongoing and they are going very well. But you have to have a Plan B and a Plan C in the event you don't reach an agreement, and we have those plans."

In the event of Alonso leaving the team, Brown also confirmed that Lando Norris would not take his place: "Our current plan is to put him in Formula 2," he said. "I certainly think he's fast enough to be in Formula 1 but we don't want to rush things. He's definitely our star of the future and we won't put him in another Formula 1 team at this point."

 

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mbmwe36

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At this point I would just stick with Honda, if I were McLaren. Had they cut their losses at the end of the first season, or even last year, that would've made sense. But it looks like Honda is making strides, they're getting paid rather well, and the Renault PU is not all that impressive, not to... [Read more]

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  • Would be amazing if they went for Renault

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    • Sep 1 2017 - 19:23
    • And have them stuck with Renault's "services"? No thanks.

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      • Sep 1 2017 - 19:25
    • Not amazing as in great for mclaren amazing ... amazing as in unbelieavble

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      • Sep 1 2017 - 19:37
    • I can buy that reaction a bit better, hehe.

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      • Sep 1 2017 - 19:48
    • Kevin

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      They would be complete idiots if they'd choose Renault. Zak Brown, Eric Boullier and Fernando Alonso are burying McLaren to the ground. I really hate to say this, but if they lesve Honda now, they will never come back as a top team ever again. They'd be Williams 2.0.

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      • Sep 1 2017 - 21:42
  • mbmwe36

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    At this point I would just stick with Honda, if I were McLaren. Had they cut their losses at the end of the first season, or even last year, that would've made sense. But it looks like Honda is making strides, they're getting paid rather well, and the Renault PU is not all that impressive, not to mention that they have already stopped the development of this year's engine months ago. If that means Alonso is leaving, so be it, he's been less than loyal.

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    • Sep 1 2017 - 20:53
    • ianf1

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      Alonso is the only thing the McLaren marketing guys have left, if he goes they have nothing to attract sponsors

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      • Sep 1 2017 - 21:27
    • mbmwe36

      Posts: 533

      Well, they've lost sponsors left and right during his tenure, so his drawing power is probably limited. If McLaren were to become competitive again, getting sponsors probably wouldn't me be much of a problem.

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      • Sep 2 2017 - 02:26
  • HEINZ

    Posts: 61

    I also agree that its too late to dump Honda. Renault does not seem that much better. I just hope Honda can make some decent progress over the Winter...

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    • Sep 1 2017 - 21:37
  • kngrthr

    Posts: 203

    if you put a Renault engine in the mclaren now, they would be about where red bull are.

    they would take that.

    the Renault engine is 90% there. they will get it right.

    honda scores the unlikely hatrick of poor reliability, low power and high fuel consumption.

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    • Sep 2 2017 - 01:12

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